What you don’t seem to realized is that there are many different levels of intelligence. Wasn’t Luna the one that found a way to get to the ministry? Wasn’t Luna the one to always comfort Harry- the one who understood him in ways that no one else could? You don’t have to have Book smarts to be considered smart. It’s clear that Luna has very high levels of interpersonal intelligence. To be honest I don’t even know where this is coming from- we never see her in a classroom, we don’t see her grades- wtf are you talking about? Because she believes in things other people don’t? Do we have proof that those things don’t exist!? This was one of the most important themes in the book- Voldemort, the chamber of secrets, the room of requirement, horcruxes, Ravenclaw’s diadem, THE DEATHLY HALLOWS….. people didn’t believe they existed but eventually they were proven wrong. So why should Luna be considered stupid just because she chooses to believe!? And I can’t… because she doesn’t try to make friends!? Really? Fucking REALLY!? WHY would you try to be friends with people who treat you like crap? Who bully you and call you names just because you’re different? No one needs friends like that. And Luna didn’t need people like that in her life and she knew that. Didn’t she eventually find the friends that she deserved? The ones that accepted her quirks and differences and didn’t try and make her change? Frankly, I’m ashamed of you. You’re showing levels of narrow-minded ignorance a Ravenclaw shouldn’t possess.
Fuck, being a Ravenclaw does NOT mean being academically brilliant and overly logical and having a stick up your ass. It means being open to new ideas and alternatives and being willing to think outside of the box; it means accepting that you do not know everything but nonetheless choosing to follow your own path and learn for the sake of learning. It means not judging others for their eccentricities because there are so many different types of intelligence. While it makes logical sense that Ravenclaws would be good at academics and smart, being smart has multiple facets. Two brilliant people could disagree with one another on everything just because their modes of thought and the way they process information is completely different. Luna was different, and the way she processed reality may seem funny, but that doesn’t detract from the fact that she passionately searched for information about things she was interested in, even if that thing is a crumple horned snorkack. Being a Ravenclaw means accepting the world for being a strange and marvelous as it is, and seizing it to learn all of its intricacies. Luna is more a Ravenclaw than you will ever be.
Can we also bring up the fact that one of the magical creatures she “made up” was found to be true, but only certain people could see it so they thought she was insane?
If the thestral was real, who’s to say the other things weren’t?
I knew when the answer opened with those gifs that someone was going to get schooled.
Are we never going to talk about how the “password” to the Ravenclaw tower is a RIDDLE?
A Ravenclaw who is strictly logical will LITERALLY BE UNABLE TO GET TO THEIR DORM. A Ravenclaw who has book-smarts and cannot think outside the box and take the weird answer WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE A RAVENCLAW. “Which came first, the phoenix or the flame?” “Where do Vanished objects go?”
TO BE A RAVENCLAW YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE ANSWER THAT ISN’T GIVEN, TO TAKE THE WEIRD OPTION AND FLIGHT OF FANCY AND MAKE SENSE OF IT. BECAUSE THAT’S THE KIND OF RIDDLE RAVENCLAWS LIVE ON. THE KIND OF RIDDLE THAT ACTS AS A KEY TO GET INTO THEIR DAMN DORM.
AND WHAT’S MORE, YOU KNOW WHO WAS THE SHITTIEST TO LUNA, AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL FROM THE BOOKS? OTHER. RAVENCLAWS. RAVENCLAWS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO COULD HAVE GOTTEN INTO HER DORM AND TAKE THINGS. RAVENCLAWS HAD TO HAVE A BIG FUCKING HAND IN TORMENTING LUNA. WHY THE FUCK SHOULD SHE MAKE FRIENDS WITH THOSE PEOPLE?
this post is so great because it demonstrates exactly how luna got bullied for being different and also how she got a badass posse of friends to save the goddamn world with
Ew, I share a house with the person who submitted this :(
Also, “making no effort to even try and make any friends?” What the hell does that mean? She HAS friends by the end of the series, so clearly she did try?
What I think they mean is “she didn’t tone down who she was in order to fit in.” And, like…that’s a bad thing???
There’s a difference between “not being friendly” (which is definitely NOT Luna’s problem) and “not bending over backward for other people’s approval.” And that’s not a lack of friendliness, it’s an abundance of self-respect.
Also, whether or not you have friends comes down to WAY more than just trying. Trust me on this - I’m autistic. And there comes a point when you get tired of trying to get along with people and be accepted and seeing basically no return on your efforts, so you go “well, I’m going to like myself even if it means I’m alone.” To me that’s the decision Luna made, and it’s a hard decision but anyone who’s had the experience of not fitting in as they are knows that sometimes it’s necessary.
Aaaaaand this has all been said before up top, but I was so pissed I needed to restate it.
So much this. This is everything I would have said myself.
and in that moment, the entire movie theater burst into tears
i think this was the moment that made most of us despise umbridge more than voldemort
most of us?! don’t you mean ALL of us?? I don’t think even Voldemort liked this bitch!
No one likes Umbridge.
I heard, one time, a dementor kissed her and IT died
Voldemort committed genocide, but Umbridge dared to be female while she abused her power.
The point isn’t that Umbridge was worse than Voldemort; it’s that everyone hates her more. And I think it has nothing to do with her being a woman and everything with being the sort of cruel most of us have actually experienced.
I mean, look at Voldemort. He’s basically Wizard Hitler, which is, obviously, an incredibly terrible thing to be. But most people—especially the younger people in Harry Potter’s target audience—have not had their parents murdered by a xenophobic cult leader. Nor have they fought for their lives against giant snakes, been kidnapped for dark rituals, or watched numerous friends die in front of them. Voldemort’s crimes are numerous, but they’re distant and fantastical, like hearing about a serial killer on the news.
But they have had that one teacher who inflicts extra punishments just because they don’t like you. They’ve complained to parents and authorities only to be ignored. They’ve sat through pointless classes and been silenced when they criticize. Umbridge is that teacher we all hated because she made our lives miserable and we were powerless to stop her. And as we grow out of school, there are still people in positions of power who act like her. The manager who denies your schedule requests and penalizes you for invented infractions. That customer who complains to corporate because their scam didn’t work, and the corporate decision to listen to their story. Cops performing illegal searches because they know you don’t have any proof.
Yes, torturing and killing numerous people is worse than terrorizing a handful of schoolchildren, but Voldemort is the bad guy in a fairy tale. Umbridge is personal.
Also, hey guys?
Umbridge is a torturer. She tortures people on-page. Her “punishment” for disagreeing with her is to carve words on the back of your hand, forcing you to use your own blood to write your lines. That? Is torture. That? Is abuse. That? Is violence..
She’s not just “mean”. She’s not just “unfair”. She is evil and she’s abusive, and she empowers the evil and abusive and then she tells the victims that it’s all their fault for disobeying her as she tries to gaslight them.
SHE TRIED TO MURDER A TEENAGE BOY, using Dementors as her weapons.
As demonstrated in the seventh book, the only thing stopping her from being Voldemort is she’s a coward who has to work within the rules. She will later happily oversee the abuse and torment of hundreds of witches and wizards and will be so happy to do so that her Patronus is a glowing little happy-cat so strong that she can’t even feel a room full of Dementors right next to her.
I don’t actually hate Umbridge worse than Voldemort, and her moment throwing out Trelawney was far from the moment I “started” hating her, because I hated her just fine long before that. But I have a contempt and a disgust for Umbridge that outweighs my contempt and disgust for Voldemort simply because of how she fits into society and how she uses it for her own ends, and how she justifies her actions. Voldemort at least comes right out and says that power-for-power’s-sake is the only real thing in the universe. When he kills you, it’s because he has the power to do so and wants to, and that’s all there is to it - he’ll even crow about that.
Umbridge? Umbridge tortures you and then tells you it’s your fault she’s doing it. She does this on. the damn. page.
So no, guys. Let’s not minimize Dolores Umbridge to the manager who denies your schedule requests. She’s of the same kind of evil, but a rather greater scale.
I will always reblog this because the commentary is so thoughtful and flawless.
DAT COMMENTARY ON WHY I HATED UMBRIDGE.
If you think that the universal hatred of Umbridge has anything to do with sexism, then you definitely read the books wrong. Please reread and think critically instead of spouting an “analysis” based on absolutely nothing.
(By the way, Umbridge was feared and respected in the Wizarding World. Maybe not by the Order or by the kids she abused, but by the other twisted and unlucky people who worked with her.)
Inside Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 for Architectural Digest (2011)
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